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Lets face it, he was doing what they said he did. Theres no non-creepy reason to reach out and play footsie with the guy in the stall next you. In fact, in most places it would get you punched in the eye and no-one would bother to mirandize you first.

Do I care if he's gay? No. none of my buisiness (though I would prefer that he gets a hotel room instead.)

Do I care that hes a senior member of the GOP and should really know better at this point then to give the dems something like this to work with? Yes. Where the heck was this guy for the Foley scandel? He knows how it works.

Lets go a litle farther then the obvious rep/dem thing and look at another possibility.

What if instead of a cop in that stall it had been an AQ operative?
Now what? Its not like sex has never bee used as tool of espionage before.

Do we trust his character to do the right thing in that circumstance when he was willing to risk family and position for a quickie in a toilet stall ?

The political reality is that he's got to go. The dems are going to beat him to death with it if he doesnt. It doesnt really matter how you, I or anyone else feels about gays - the dems will use it and Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton will fight each other to be first in line.

The issue of security is that if he cant be trusted to control himself in a mens room, how can he be trusted with a position holding that kind of power and influence?

Hes a big boy, he knew the risk. I feel genuine pity for his situation but he was stupid, and he has got to go.

#1 - The dems actually haven't said a damn thing about this. Most of the hoopla has been screamed by his own party.

#2 - The shoe HAS been on the other foot. Remember when Clinton was in office? He lied about getting his dick sucked in office and how people like you idiots decided that was a high crime and misdeamenor akin to the saftey of our Nation so impeachment was the only option?

Here is the bottom line - he pled guilty to the charges brought against him. He knows the law. If he didn't do it, he should have plead not guilty and askedd for a lawyer. That is how it works. He mad all kinds of lame excuses as to the situation

"Why did you tap te foot of the man sitting in the next stall"

"I have a wide stance when I sit on the toilet" - Come on, we ALL have sat on toilets in public bathrooms, NOBODY has that wide of a stance when they sit on a toilet.

He also did everything that is supposed to be done in order to secretly solicit sex according to several sources. It wasn't as if he was entrapped. I wouldn't have known one way or another how to go about it. I didn't even know you could do that in public restrooms (makes me wonder how you mikey and people like geoff seem to know so much about public rest rooms and truck stops and claim to not be gay - here I thougght it was just stupid insults. I never knew this was serious. Apparently, you guys did. Go figure.)

And finally, what you and the rest of your close minded like friends still don't get is this - it IS different if it were a dem. Why? Becuase the demms are not the party claiming to be the moral majority and shoving family values down peoples throats and then turn around annd do the exact opposite. You know what? I don't give a fuck if Craig is gay and servin in office. I don;t give a fucl if he oes out to gay clubs and gets laid in the bathrooms. That is his business and as long as he is doing a good job in office and not thumping his bible at people and turning around doing exactly what he is against, then I don't care. But guess what. The repubs stand on their pulpits claiming to have more integrity than anyone else, claiming to be such good white christians and claiming to be so high and mighty on their values and morals, but then when out of the spotlight do the exactl opposite and then want to lie about it!

But I know Mikey. You are so right because this is your blog. The repubs are so right and everyone else who disagrees with them are stinking moon bat liberal assholes who side with terrorists and are godless. The answers are just so easy Mikey. No gays, More guns, More Jesus! That will solve EVERYTHING!!!!

You have proven time and time again, just like your friends, pig headed, close minded, war mongering, backwards thinking, gorilla acting shit for brains sheep.

Wow, looks like Im wrong even when I do agree with Nunya -

Theres just no pleasin some folks.

I just dont get the whole family values, cramming it down peoples throats thing.

I dont really see much of that happening. Yet, the libs just go crazy about it. Its almost as if its a direct affront to liberal sensibilities if you dont participate in all of the lifestyle shenanigans.

I am a liberal. So automatically I am a bad person and adhere to all kinds of craziness in how I live my life. That is how you and this jerk off here define me. Because I don't agree with the conservative view of the world. Forget the fact that I am an upper-middle class with 2 children and a wife. Forget that I am strict with my son on his education and teach him to be kind to *ALL* people. Forget that I try to be aqs loving and caring to my daughter. Forget the fact that when surprise, my wife is pregnant again unplanned that I am against abortion personally but believe it should not be outlawed because it is a choice.
No I do not believe war is the solution to problems. No I will not let my son join any military arms of this nation. Yes, I served and learned my lesson annd do not want him to make the same mistake. Yes, I believe gays should be allowed to marry.
But I am a bad person because I live such a sinful life. Because I am a liberal.

It is a good thing we are not physically together because I am not sure if I could contain myself by breaking your jaw. But surley, like every good chickenhawk I have encountered, you would cowar away.

Wow.

Well I agree with you on one thing Nunya, its probably a good thing that we arent physically together.

By the way, threatening someone with physical violence when they disagree with you, doesnt really sound so ...... I'm searching for the word here ...... liberal. Yeah thats it.

I didn't threaten you. I said "It is a good thing we are not physically together because I am not sure if I could contain myself by breaking your jaw."

That is not a threat so don't even begin to try that bullshit.

And finally, what you and the rest of your close minded like friends still don't get is this - it IS different if it were a dem. Why? Because the demms are not the party claiming to be the moral majority and shoving family values down peoples throats and then turn around annd do the exact opposite.

That wasn't what I was implying - it was more of a 'if the show was on the other foot' type statement. Well anyways, does this mean that you'll be the FIRST to be screaming for Bob Filner to resign for breaking security regulations at that Virginia (I think that's where it happened) airport?

But I know Mikey.

I seriously doubt that.

You are so right because this is your blog.

Once again, you missed the point of my saying that; I said that not to say that no matter what you say isn't correct or that you don't have any sort of argument, it was said for when people such as yourself get all bent out of shape for my laying down a few rules.

The repubs are so right and everyone else who disagrees with them are stinking moon bat liberal assholes who side with terrorists and are godless.

I wouldn't say that Republicans are always right and Barking Moonbats are always wrong (but more and more it appears like that with every new 'scandal'), but you've got the rest of the statement correct.

The answers are just so easy Mikey. No gays, More guns, More Jesus! That will solve EVERYTHING!!!!

Whoops - you're throwing in snippets of several different arguments in that statement.

How many other blogs to you frequent and get involved in discussions like this one? Because it seems that you'll move from blog to blog, engaging in debates/discussions concerning multiple various subjects, and eventually you're driven from them (maybe banned) and you end up coughing up what might be called 'debate ending statements' (kind of like the ultimate 'comeback' that comes to mind a couple of hours after the fact) and you somehow think that all of those statements have relevance, so you post them.

And when you do this (and I seem to recall this happening over at DSD several times), THAT is when you come across to anyone reading your stuff that you're just this side of foaming-at-the-mouth and are seconds away from destroying your keyboard.

Come on - do yourself a favor: stick to the argument at hand and if you must include something that's non-related....east it into the discussion while making ample announcements that you're totally aware of the non-sequitor nature of it.

And consider this: what do you think the average person would think of you if you publicly denounced anyone pushing 'family values'....? You would appear to be totally against family values, which is more or less terms makes you and associates of your to be total scumbags.