Comments on Presidential Speech Tonight

I didn't get to see it on tv, but heard it on the radio. Good speech overall. Will it influence any of the spineless liberals out there? Probably not.

Hey Tetzman...watch who you call spineless, bitch.
I thought tonight's speech was absolute bullshit. Bush will never cop to anything..he lives in a fantasy world, and I found it particularly disgusting that he dared to keep mentioning 911 in the context of talking about Iraq. That was beyond bullshit..yet he still pushes his propaganda upon the people. He said absolutely nothing of substance tonight. All he did was show us all more of his insanity. He talks about sacrifice? What a fucking joke..he doesn't know the meaning of the word. I might also add that he was told way back when more troops were needed. The troops still aren't armed properly. He lied his way into this war, and the blind masses buy his filth. What a sad time for this country.

Well, the LIBERAL masses. Us neocone got it MADE!

I found it particularly disgusting that he dared to keep mentioning 911 in the context of talking about Iraq.

You should really find it more disgusting that the ones terrorizing Iraq have the same warped ideology as the ones who killed thousands of Americans on 9-11. Coincidence? Keep dreaming.

The troops still aren't armed properly.

General Ruthie, reporting for duty!

Moonbats are so amusing. LOL!

I believe ruthie is right. We need to provide a better combat weapon for our troops, and we need to grant them more leniency in their actions.

You should really find it more disgusting that the ones terrorizing Iraq have the same warped ideology as the ones who killed thousands of Americans on 9-11. Coincidence? Keep dreaming.

Aside from Bush saying that, how do you know that they have the same warped ideology? Must be nice to have that long distance mind reading ability. Many of the freedom fighters are simply defending their country from occupation and terrorism...terrorism by the Bush administration.

General Ruthie, reporting for duty!

I can find you several quotes by real generals who requested more troops. General Zinni, for instance, is one such General.
Seek the truth, bro, and if you look hard enough you might get a clue.

Moonbats are so amusing. LOL!

I find it reprehensible that you find any of this amusing, yet it is typical of rabid dog right wingers to not see their own folly.
Wipe yer nose..it's covered in Bush shit.

I believe ruthie is right. We need to provide a better combat weapon for our troops, and we need to grant them more leniency in their actions.

Ah, fuck it Yogs, you just need to get your ass over there and Sgt. Rock them all.

how do you know that they have the same warped ideology?

The horse's mouth reveals much. Man, you libs have short freaking memories!

General Zinni. On the ground in Iraq now? Um... nope.

C'mon! I know you can do better!

Oh. Yeah.

Seek Truth, yo!

Interesting article, yo! Old news.

So let me be sure I understand what you're saying here... al-Zarqawi says it's ok to kill "innocents", so therefore all the "insurgents" must be of the same mindset! There are no old Baathists hanging around, no pissed off Iraqis who have lost their families when Americans have killed innocents (except we call it collateral damage and do it in the name of freedom instead of jihad), they're all muslims with the same warped ideology. How naive. I guess because Bush is a self proclaimed christian, we're all christians.

Guess you missed the Abizaid interview this weekend, eh, yo?

Keep seeking

Aside from Bush saying that, how do you know that they have the same warped ideology? Must be nice to have that long distance mind reading ability. Many of the freedom fighters are simply defending their country from occupation and terrorism...terrorism by the Bush administration.

Truth is between these 2 cases. I seldom pimp my blog, but I have covered it there a bit better. Link:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/yogimus/2935.html

Ruthie, where YOUR argument encounters a flaw is when you consider the fact that your freedom fighters are defending their nation by blowing up their countrymen.

Chet, you fall on your assumption that if you do not sign up for the war, you have no say in the matter. That is wrong, and imbaccyllic.

Ah, fuck it Yogs, you just need to get your ass over there and Sgt. Rock them all.

Not all, but definitely SOME.

Geez, ruthie, does your doctor have to replace the sphygmometers in his office after your visits?

does your insurance cover that?

Many of the freedom fighters are simply defending their country from occupation and terrorism...

Ruthie, if this was a 'stand up' fight this might be true. But these 'freedom fighters' are detonating car bombs in front of crowded marketplaces and killing Iraqi civilians, beheading Iraqis that are in the security forces, and lots of other heinous acts that simply have no civility....even civility that's encountered during wartime.

It would be like the Minutemen (from 1776) killing everyone at the Bostom Common in the name of George Washington; it just doesn't "translate"

And no matter how you attempt to frame these actions, they've not the actions of an 'army' defending it's soil - their the actions of psychotic scumbags that are practically similar to those that perpetrated 9/11....THAT is the context in which President Buch mentioned 9/11 in last night's speech.

Wow Ruthie!
Did I upset you? Truth hurts eh?

Your opinion is appreciated, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Based on all the reading/research I do, The whole situatiuon in Iraq is going as well as can be expected. Sure mistakes have been made, and we can always do things better. I think we need to step back and let the military do their job, as they see fit. Most politicians have never worn a uniform, and as such shouldn't be dictating a timtable for finishing an operation of this magnitude.
Ruthie, did you research how long we spent in Japan & Germany, after the wars there were concluded? Both theaters of combat had insugents after the major fighting was deemed concluded.

And NO, I don't rubber stamp everything President Bush has done. I think he's done a piss-poor job on immigration, energy and a few other things...

Lest we not forget,
Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it!

BTW, Ruthie,
::::: throwing out more Moonbat bait:::::

Did you miss the reports that most of the supposed "Freedom Fighters" in Iraq, are from outside of Iraq?

I caught John Kerry on NBC this AM. It was the same tired old argument about we need to "get it right" with regard to Iraq. Of course he didn't have any constructive comments about how HE thinks we can get it right..

HMMM..Germany and Japan, after WW11 had insurgents? Interesting..tell me more, please.
The big difference is that Germany and Japan were the aggressors. a better comparison is the German occupation of France.

Did you miss the reports that most of the supposed "Freedom Fighters" in Iraq, are from outside of Iraq?

According to ABIZAID, your statistics are quite wrong...and that was from comments he made on June 26th. Small amount of foreign fighters.

"their the actions of psychotic scumbags that are practically similar to those that perpetrated 9/11"

practically similar? umm... how 'bout exactly the same. the mindset is the same across the region, and across the "religion of peace" (my ass). they are the rule, not the exception. and this shit ain't new, it's been going on for decades.

"I think we have a good idea" of where to find him, Abizaid told CNN.

"We know what we're doing in our efforts how to get him," he said.

"But I want to also stress that it's not about one man. It's about his network. His network exists inside Iraq. It's connected to Al-Qaeda. It's got facilitation nodes in Syria," Abizaid told the US cable news channel.

"It brings foreign fighters in from Saudi Arabia and from North Africa. It is connected to what is happening in Afghanistan and what is happening in Pakistan. It is a global battle that we face," he said.

"The Zarqawi part of the network needs to be taken down. He needs to be captured or killed. But we should understand: It's a long war ahead of us. It's a difficult enemy that we'll have to fight over time throughout the region," the general said.

Jordanian-born Zarqawi, who has a 25-million-dollar US bounty on his head, is blamed for some of the deadliest attacks in Iraq and is the country's most-wanted man.

I see the strategic value of what we are doing in Iraq (even though I'm blind ;-)) as much today as I did in March '03. Forest for the trees, and all that...

BTW Jeff - how are you feeling these days? Boundless energy??

To tell the truth, I'm feeling ragged out these days....looking forward to getting a donor. ;)

Mikey! I'm on the mend! They claim I've got something close to 40% kidney function with the transplant! Even with that much, I feel great!
I've got lots of energy, no dietary restrictions, and no dialysis machine to sleep with every nite!
Life is very good!
We're going camping this weekend. It'll be the first time in 3 yrs that we've been able to go someplace without power.

That's great, Tetz. Hope you get a donor soon, Mikey. I know you just feel worn out most of the time.

Jeff: That's great! I wish I could go camping, but setting up dialysis in another city is a severe pain...

Cait: You don't know the half of it, but thanks for your support. (You know....you can live with only one kidney, right?) ;)

Very refreshing to hear Ruthie's sane voice among the fear driven rhetoric of the other comments.
Al Qaeda's stated aim at the time of 9/11 was to remove the Americans from Saudi Arabia, nothing else. How Bush has brought 'freedom' into the whole mess is a minor miracle of spin.
Bush and Blair stand in front of us and pull wool over our eyes, a triumph of arrogance.

Al Qaeda's stated aim at the time of 9/11 was to remove the Americans from Saudi Arabia, nothing else.

"To kill the infidels wherever they are, and to allow them no safe harbor."

Al Queda has no "gameplan" per se. They empower their local leaders to set the strategy for the region. In fact, al queda's main contribution to terrorism is to provide training and transport to individual groups.

On rare occasions the higher ups co-ordinate several groups into a major attack, like 9/11, embassy bombings in africa, Kobar towers, etc. These massive attacks are done to raise recruitment and funding.

It is the day to day kidnappings, extortion, and assassinations that you never hear about. THAT is what Al Queda DOES.

Mikey, my kidneys are 60 years old, and have worked overtime for some of that, considering how much beer I drank in college. They'd probably give you toxic shock.

I know.....just joshing ya.

FYI, my donor is 55 years old. I'm 40...
60 isn't that far from 55....