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'60 Minutes' is going to go out on a limb:
Bush faces pressure over drugs and draft
After weeks in which John Kerry's military record has been picked to pieces, President George Bush now faces a double blast of scrutiny over his own past, raising new questions over his avoidance of the Vietnam draft and his alleged use of drugs.Too bad it just doesn't add up:The first salvo is due to be fired on CBS tonight, when Ben Barnes, a Democrat and the lieutenant governor of Texas in 1968, will explain his role in securing for the 22-year-old Yale graduate Bush a coveted place in the state's Air National Guard - a unit so full of the sons of Texas's rich and powerful that it was known as the "Champagne Unit".
Bush went into the ANG in 1968:
Bush enlisted in the Texas Air National Guard at Ellington Air Force Base, Texas, on May 27, 1968 and became a pilot.whereas Barnes wasn't in office until after:
In 1969, Barnes was elected lieutenant governor of Texas and served from 1969 to 1973.
I would have thought this would be seared - seared into his memory.....
Oh, and take a guess who is one of Kerry's 'top fundraisers'....what a coincidence.
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scroff said:
The memos could be faked. I wouldn't be surprised. Barnes isn't fake, and I tend to believe him,
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nathaile said:
wtf? I'm lost in the space here... where am I? what post am I commenting on? anybody home? hello?
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nathalie said:
we're supposed to trust Barnes' word on this? he's not a kerry fundraiser, is he? I mean, a dude
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scroff said:
Details, Grump? lol
Like the little detail that Barnes didn't get Bush his soft spot in t
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GrumpyBunny said:
Oh details, details, Mikey. It's not important unless it paints the conservatives in a bad light
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Oh details, details, Mikey. It's not important unless it paints the conservatives in a bad light.
I think Kerry and team are running scared. They ought to be. So they're pulling out all the stops and every freak from the woodwork.
The Republicans got their "bounce" after the convention. Kerry is still thinking they're going to get theirs. HA! If it ain't happened by now, it ain't gonna happen.
|| Posted by GrumpyBunny, September 8, 2004 10:31 AM ||Details, Grump? lol
Like the little detail that Barnes didn't get Bush his soft spot in the Guard while he was Lt. Governor, but while he was Texas speaker of the House?
Oh those nasty little details. :) Maybe the confusion comes because there's "Lt" in there somehwere, you know, a fake Lt. Bush as opposed to a Lt. Governor...
Mikey, you been drinking too much "lt" beer to have missed this one. ;)
|| Posted by scroff, September 8, 2004 08:49 PM ||but in all fairness, I fucked it up too. That's why Barnes came out with this, to set the record straight.
we're supposed to trust Barnes' word on this? he's not a kerry fundraiser, is he? I mean, a dude that's supporting sbvt has supported bush, so.... if I'm to trust Barnes, then I challenge you to trust the SBVT. I guess everybody is a liar in this political day and age.
problem is, those who are doing the happy dance over these memos and brushing off any implication that they MAY be forged are the same folks who are brushing off the vets that speak out about kerry (they're all lying sacks-o-shit, right?). let's see, we have a dead man's (alleged) memo that came from an unknown source (he's no longer on God's Green Earth to talk to this), and we have 200+ living vets telling their story of what happened 30 years ago. one is absolute truth, the other must be a lie. hmm....
regardless, I want to know where these memos came from, and I want them investigated. if they are fake, CBS needs to own up to it. if they are not faked, then CBS' credibility stays in tact and we can all move along. as long as this is NOT addressed, CBS no longer has any credibility, and dan rather should just retire now. I just wonder why CBS isn't doing anything to defend themselves, besides the good ol' "oh, trust us on this one!"
skepticism should apply to all sides, and nobody should be doing any happy dances. this shit is making my head spin.
|| Posted by nathalie, September 10, 2004 12:56 PM ||wtf? I'm lost in the space here... where am I? what post am I commenting on? anybody home? hello? where is the space monkey overlord when I need him most?
::sigh::
thank the space overlord it's friday.
|| Posted by nathaile, September 10, 2004 01:01 PM ||The memos could be faked. I wouldn't be surprised. Barnes isn't fake, and I tend to believe him, for the simple reason that lots of priveledged guys were doing it and Bush was (is?) a spoiled little rich boy who wasn't going to give up his party life to get his hands dirty, and maybe blown off, in Vietnam. Bush has also said he served in the Air Force in his first campaign for Texas gov... so we've gone from serving in the Air Force, to well, it was really the Air National Guard and actually only 600 hours in the Air Force, to Well, I got an Honorable Discharge. I got an Honorable Discharge, and I had 13 Article 15s, so an Honorable doesn't mean anything, especially when you're a Bush.
What's happening is really sickening. Bush says Kerry sux, Kerry says, no you sux! No you! You! You!
Camp Bush is now saying the exact same thing about this Texans for Truth ad as Camp Kerry said about the Pissed Off Swifties. (Interesting thing though about the Pissed Off Swifties, they were all supposed to have served with Kerry, but one of them that I know of was an Air Force Col... what's a wingnut Col doing on a swift boat?? Guess that was a lie, then.)
I think you said it nat when you said they're all full of shit. I just happen to think Bush (and the bush camp) is more full of shit.
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