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Navy deserter Pablo Parades thinks he won't get hammered:
"I know other people are feeling the same way I am, and I'm hoping more people will stand up," he said. "They can't throw us all in jail."Yeah they can and will Pablo.
As we used to say when I was in the Navy: Wrong Action Code numbnuts.
And you'll be real 'popular' with the other prisoners in the brig. Hope you enjoy the blanket party they throw for you.....
Pablo Paredes literally tried to get arrested. There are witnesses from Fox in San Diego. Appar
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scroff said:
I don't know the whole story on this, from either point of view, but going on what I do know he s
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I don't know the whole story on this, from either point of view, but going on what I do know he should have sailed, or turned himself in. Now there's going to be this big protest about it. I haven't heard anything about the protest, but it sounds like more of the California fruits and nuts variety of protest, gives the rest of us a bad name. If you want to support the guy do it, I guess, that's what makes America America, and one of the reasons those men who are honored on that site fought. I think giving them a hard time about protesting is just as much disrespecting the men who died in past wars as their selection of that spot to protest in support of a deserter. Didn't they die to protect their right to protest? I think both sides are just being reactionary and it's stupid. Paredes needs to buck up and turn himself in and refuse to his CO. If he's going to stand up for his beliefs then he should be willing to pay the price, even if the war is wrong. Let him take up his fight in a military court of law. Who knows, maybe with a real good lawyer he'll make his point that the war is immoral and illegal and therefore he didn't have to sail. That will be making a statement. But until then, other kids his age who feel the same way are over there, he should at least take his own heat here.
|| Posted by scroff, December 17, 2004 06:03 PM ||Pablo Paredes literally tried to get arrested. There are witnesses from Fox in San Diego. Apparently the Navy didn't want to give the peace movement any fodder to work with.
After some research I have discovered that every branch of the military has long acknowledged that an individual signing up for the military may have moral values that have not "crystalized". There is a mechanism in place for asserting an objections to killing or supporting the mechanisms of war. At the time of enlistment recruiters do ask if you have an objection to killing or to the support of war efforts, but there are historical documents going back to WWII which indicate that the military has had to work hard to motivate soldiers as killers. After WWII the military was so concerned that they had to change their training techniques.
In the stories of soldiers that have been released on the grounds of objections of conscience, and through my own knowledge as a therapist, I have found that moral values do not always "crystalize" unless they are tested. I think the military was wise to put a mechanism in place for withdrawing.
There is a body of documentation demonstrating that for over a year Pablo had asserted his unwillingness to participate in the military structure but he was never informed of his right to apply for conscientious objector status. His actions in San Diego were taken without knowledge of any alternative. He expected to go to prison at that time. It was only after his public assertion of his personal principles that a lawyer came forward to help him go through the military's process for separation with an "other then honorable" discharge.
|| Posted by Maegan, April 11, 2005 09:20 AM ||