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Robert over at Let's Try Freedom makes an interesting point about the election on Tuesday:
Here's what it boils down to, folks:Regardless of how much I consider John Kerry not qualified to be the next President of the United States, Robert is right: if he wins, he's our President.If John Kerry wins the election, reasonably fair, reasonably square, then he becomes my President and your President.
If George Bush wins the election, reasonably fair, reasonably square, then he remains my President and your President.
This is my pledge, my promise, my what-have-you. It's written down, in black and white. Call me on it if I renege.
This is one aspect of this election that has really caused me concern - the divisiveness that has emerged from the us versus them attitudes.
I had thought long & hard about what would happen after the election was over - would Americans continue to look upon their political 'rivals' as anthing more than that: rivals?
Whether we voted for him or not - whether we consider him the cat's meow as elected officials go - whether we think he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, whoever wins the election on Tuesday will be the President and it should be recognized that it is the will of the American people that the results be honored.
If Kerry is elected, I'll support him as President - even if I don't think he's fit to be dog catcher in Reno, Nevada. I won't bad-mouth him as many have trashed and talked smack about President Bush since 2000.
I'll do what Robert did and ask that you do two things after reading both his and my posts on this:
We must remember that while we're conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, whatever - we're Americans first.
I'm curious where you hear or see Dems not acceptiong the election results? I wouldn't be surpris
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timekeeper said:
Sadly, it is those who supported Kerry who once again refuse to accept the results of the electio
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scroff said:
Well, folks, off to cast my ballot for Kerry. There's already lots and lots of voter fraud crap g
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The Other Mike S said:
Gordo, what are you rambling on about now?
Read more in The Aftermath of TuedayIdeals - what are those again? I think Jefferson, Henry, Franklin are all rolling in their grave
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scroff said:
I guess I'll be joining The Other Mike S. and whoever else...
I support my country first,
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Exactly. None of this they-stole-it crap.
If Kerry wins, we have to accept some responsibility for not getting the message out, for not working hard enough. We have to learn & move on.
|| Posted by jeff, November 1, 2004 12:21 AM ||Yeah - we'll kick our dogs, cats, iguanas, but we'll suck it up and honor the results.
Even if we don't respect the man on some levels, we'll respect the man in the office.
|| Posted by Mad Mikey, November 1, 2004 05:13 AM ||I would never make such a blanket pledge. GW had my support right up until he invaded Iraq. I could overlook his shortcomings as a fiscal conservative. I could overlook his shortcomings in regards to illegal aliens (barely). I could almost overlook his USA Patriot act, but not quite.
But, regarding Iraq, he lied or stretched the truth so far as to make it indistinguishable from a lie that I can never support him. Under any circumstances.
I've said before that I hope Kerry wins, but I'm not a big supporter. I see him (hopefully) as an interim president. I will support him, though, as I supported the early-Bush, in hopes he can become a good or great president.
|| Posted by The Other Mike S., November 1, 2004 08:32 AM ||Well Mike, you could join NoSUBSTANCE, Cul, and Maria in thier Civil War campaign.
|| Posted by Gordon the Magnificent, November 1, 2004 08:12 PM ||hmmmmm..I could never agree with this sentiment. I want Kerry to win, but if I don't like actions he takes as president, I'll be on his shit too.
If Bush wins, well, what can I say?
As far as who wins..it being the will of the people...well that didn't hold true last time. There are already reports from all over the country of voter fraud.
[QUOTE=mikey]Even if we don't respect the man on some levels, we'll respect the man in the office.[/QUOTE]
I have no respect for Bush whatsoever. He is deceitful and a megalomaniac. I don't believe in respecting someone because of the office they hold..it is more importantly...what is it they do with the power said office gives them..do they use it perversly, or for the good of all?
I don't believe we will have the true results for quite a while, and I can understand that no matter who wins, the other side will have trouble trusting the results.
|| Posted by ruthie, November 1, 2004 10:52 PM ||I guess I'll be joining The Other Mike S. and whoever else...
I support my country first, before any man in any office, even and especially the President. If the man driving the bus is about to ram it into a bridge abutment, you don't sit there and let it happen out of blind allegiance to an office.
If Bush is elected, reasonably fair, reasonably square, then I'll watch and point out and criticize every move he makes... likewise if Kerry wins, reasonably fair, reasonably square, I'll watch his every move...
Long after Bush and Kerry are retired there will still be a United States of America. You can be sure I'll be doing my part, my patriotic duty if you will, to ensure it is left to the future in at least as free and noble a state as I received it... better if possible.
My loyalty is to the high ideals my country was founded on before any one individual.
|| Posted by scroff, November 1, 2004 11:01 PM ||Ideals - what are those again? I think Jefferson, Henry, Franklin are all rolling in their graves at what our political system/process has become: a mockery of their perfect dream.
|| Posted by GrumpyBunny, November 2, 2004 07:10 AM ||Gordo, what are you rambling on about now?
|| Posted by The Other Mike S, November 2, 2004 08:29 AM ||Well, folks, off to cast my ballot for Kerry. There's already lots and lots of voter fraud crap going on... voting machines are being confiscated already... after people have voted...
Anyway... good luck!
|| Posted by scroff, November 2, 2004 08:46 AM ||Sadly, it is those who supported Kerry who once again refuse to accept the results of the election. The largest vote total ever seen in an election in this country's history is not enough for them. The GOP gain of four seats in the Senate is not enough of a mandate (following the two seat gain in 2002, for those who are counting). The gain in the House of representatives (following the gains in 2002).
I have no doubt that some Republicans would have been upset had Kerry won, but it is the larger (and far more obnoxious) contingent in the Democratic Party that give the rest of the Dems a bad name.
|| Posted by timekeeper, November 3, 2004 09:10 AM ||I'm curious where you hear or see Dems not acceptiong the election results? I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people who are crying foul, I just haven't seen or heard it.
For myself, just because Bush won doesn't mean I agree with him or his supporters, and I reserve the right to disagree and to make my views well known. Nor does it mean I will fall in behind the "mandate" and follow suit if I think it's wrong. But that's the beauty of America, eh?
For Bush to win my support he would have to concede much I don't think he's prepared to concede.
|| Posted by scroff, November 3, 2004 01:46 PM ||