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YOG: Your highly selective, neatly constructed un-scientific googling doesn't really prove anythi
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Yogimus said:
"""The MSM goes with what it thinks will sell."""
Google test:
Good news Iraq:
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Abu Gharib: A SOLDIER reported the abuse, pentagon made it public knowledge 3 MONTHS before the s
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Yogimus said:
It is the "Howard Stern" effect. People buy it because they can't believe what it said.
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scroff said:
they're mainly IMO intended to protray President Bush and anything associated with him as the
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Mad Mikey said:
It was merely a piece of performance art?
Yeah really....
Dude, the Newswe
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I smelled (no pun intended) a rat immediately upon reading in the Newsweek account that interrogators flushed a copy of the Qu'uran down the toilet. Ever try to flush a book down a toilet?
|| Posted by Mark, May 16, 2005 08:57 PM ||The Pentagon decided not to investigate some charges, or they weren't true. Frankly, I don't trust shit coming out of the Pentagon...and no one should. The abuses that have gone on are far beyond what we have been told.
|| Posted by ruthie, May 17, 2005 09:46 AM ||Militant combatants do not fall under any type of legal protection. Any time they have left breathing after initial contact with our forces is more than they are entitled to.
As such, we as a nation go OUT OF OUR WAY to protect the rights of all captured individuals. EVERY SINGLE "abuse" story was broken by the pentagon. Well, the true ones anyway.
|| Posted by Yogimus, May 17, 2005 02:39 PM ||Yog: Your grasp of the pentagon breaking abuse and torture stories is WAY off the mark. Prisoners, aid agencies and the FBI were the ones who have made the allegations in the past. Not the Pentagon.
I have a question re:this story.
The allegations that this report caused riots in Afghanistan strike me as odd, considering similar allegations have been made over the last two years by aid agencies and former prisioners from Gitmo AND have been accessable to the public for quite some time. Conivently, when this report comes out in a major news magazine, it is quickly seen as the cause of the rioting and unrest. Especialyl by the US military and White House (who also are using it as a springboard to once again demonize the so-called "Liberal" media).
Maybe it is the cause of the riots. Or maybe its a convient cover...
Anyone?
|| Posted by Blackglasses, May 17, 2005 07:47 PM ||It was merely a piece of performance art?
|| Posted by Yogimus, May 18, 2005 12:59 PM ||It was merely a piece of performance art?
Yeah really....
Dude, the Newsweek piece - like oh-so-many others in the MSM - are not primarily intended for information dissimination, they're mainly IMO intended to protray President Bush and anything associated with him as the fifth horseman of the apocalypse.
|| Posted by Mad Mikey, May 19, 2005 07:53 AM ||they're mainly IMO intended to protray President Bush and anything associated with him as the fifth horseman of the apocalypse.
Some articles are, I guess, but if the MSM was really so liberal we would hear alot more about the UK memo, Galloway, there would have been banner headlines "Bush is lying" prior to the war. The MSM goes with what it thinks will sell.
|| Posted by scroff, May 19, 2005 09:32 AM ||It is the "Howard Stern" effect. People buy it because they can't believe what it said.
Too bad people ended up killing each other over this crap. But those people get no pity from me. If you want to RIOT over stupid shit, go nuts. Hope you get killed in the process. Rioters (NOT PROTEST but RIOT) need to be handled in a napoleonic manner. Preferrably grapeshot.
|| Posted by Yogimus, May 19, 2005 07:03 PM ||Abu Gharib: A SOLDIER reported the abuse, pentagon made it public knowledge 3 MONTHS before the story "broke".
Marine shooting in fallujah: A MARINE made the call to release the tape, the pentagon concurred.
In FACT, all news media releases get approved through the pentagon. This is to prevent mission critical information from being released.
As for all the agencies that go apeshit in CUBA bitching about the conditions of detainees: "What is the big scoop?" Detainees are being treated "bad"? Compared to what? We let agencies check on them for crying out loud!
When was the last time an agency worker got to be on that island and NOT on american soil? You know... in CUBA... where there are MANY more people in political internment camps...
|| Posted by Yogimus, May 19, 2005 07:12 PM ||"""The MSM goes with what it thinks will sell."""
Google test:
Good news Iraq: 20,000,000
Bad news Iraq: 9,130,000
Bush lied: 1,420,000
Kerry lied: 720,000
Clinton lied: 642,000
Bush sucks: 1,520,000
Bush rocks: 2,220,000
Stupid liberals: 1,070,000
Stupid conservatives: 932,000
So all in all, googling shows the net to be conservative.
|| Posted by Yogimus, May 19, 2005 07:39 PM ||YOG: Your highly selective, neatly constructed un-scientific googling doesn't really prove anything. I fail to see the point in putting it up.
ON TO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS:
Hopefully this thread is not dead yet, but i thought that this was interesting- take a read:
Washington – The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff says a report from Afghanistan suggests that rioting in Jalalabad on May 11 was not necessarily connected to press reports that the Quran might have been desecrated in the presence of Muslim prisoners held in U.S. custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Air Force General Richard Myers told reporters at the Pentagon May 12 that he has been told that the Jalalabad, Afghanistan, rioting was related more to the ongoing political reconciliation process in Afghanistan than anything else.
http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/May/13-299433.html
You all took the Mainstream media and pentagon's position immediately without waiting for some proper analysis. It was just NEWSWEEK LIED, PEOPLE DIED- like they wanted you to think.
Let this be a lesson:
QUESTION THINGS FOR YOURSELF. And agreeing with AM Radio, FOX News or a blog you read is not a valid substitue for "thinking for yourself"
|| Posted by Blackglasses, May 23, 2005 06:25 PM ||